stanza 6, slokas 5-6

Stanza VI, Sloka 5-6
5. At the fourth, the sons are told to create their images. One third refuses – to obey.
The curse is pronounced; they will be born on the fourth suffer and cause suffering; this is the first war.
6. The older wheels rotated downwards and upwards….The mother’s spawn filled the whole. There were battles fought between the Creators and the Destroyers, and battles fought for space; the seed appearing and re-appearing continuously.

 

“Mr. Kingsland:  There is a question which I had here.

 
Mr. Keightley:  Page 199, last paragraph. You have spoken of “these seven planes (which) correspond to the seven states of (human) consciousness in man”, and in the note on {on page 200}, the second note to the diagram, you say “the seven states of human consciousness pertain to quite another question.”

 
Speaking of the diagram you say, “these are the four lower planes of Cosmic Consciousness…the seven states of human consciousness pertain to quite another question.”  These two quotations appear to contradict each other. What then is the connection between the seven planes as given in the diagram, and the seven states of consciousness? And what is the “other question”?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Ah! But you see, you want me to give you three volumes, and I cannot give it to you. Remember only one thing, that the seven states of consciousness in man are not only states of consciousness as Herbert Spencer understands it, but also the feeling, the consciousness of the ego.

 
For instance, I am smoking a cigarette, and I am pitching into you, and so on. There are many states of consciousness. Those states of which I speak belong to one order, and others to another. I don’t mean to say they are not the same, but there is an infinite gradation in all of them. Now, there are the higher states of metaphysical consciousness. Can you compare it with the consciousness I have of having taken a cigarette, and smoking it?

 
Mr. Kingsland:  What is the order of those states of consciousness, which refer to those seven planes? It will all come in analogy. If you read it afterwards, you will find it all dovetails.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  I don’t know whether this is legitimate, but it is what struck me. The seven states of human consciousness are practically seven states of consciousness on the terrestrial plane.

 

Mme. Blavatsky:  There is a consciousness while we sleep – during sleep, and a consciousness while we are awake. There is a consciousness when we look mechanically at something. There is one consciousness {that} takes in external objects, and the other goes wool-gathering. There are many degrees of consciousness; you cannot go and call consciousness all one.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  Yet get to this, the seven planes of Cosmic Consciousness.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  There is consciousness that I am positively in India with this lamp, and here I am in the North Pole.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  I think there is where the distinction lies, that the seven human states are analogous to the seven cosmic states, but they cover a very much smaller range.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  The fact of the matter is, there are seven states of consciousness on each of the seven planes.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  You remember what Cobb said the other day. He began to give us the mathematical series that never ended. There was some seventh question that I got mad over, and which has been asked hundreds of times. I said this has been stated very clearly in The Secret Doctrine, and I refuse to answer questions that have been already in previous writings, and are in The Secret Doctrine, and have been stated on Thursdays. I refuse to pass time on Thursday nights in more repetition.”

 
H. P. Blavatsky

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