stanza 6, sloka 5

Stanza VI, Sloka 5
5. At the fourth, the sons are told to create their images. One third refuses – to obey.
The curse is pronounced; they will be born on the fourth suffer and cause suffering; this is the first war.


“Mr. Mead:  These seven classes incarnated, we have said. When the first class leaves the globe A, does the sixth class – or rather, will the next one after it, the second class, which has reached the sixth kingdom, stop short of the human stage, because that class does not go into the human stage till the Second Round?  Therefore, it leaves that planet and goes into the Pralaya or the animal kingdom.

Mme. Blavatsky:  It seems to me, if my recollection is right, that the first class of Pitris, those who become the Lunar Pitris, have passed through all the kingdoms on globe A, and they don’t pass through all the kingdoms on globe B.

Mr. B. Keightley:  You are mistaken in your recollection.

Mr. Mead:  If that is so, and they being the pioneers, when they incarnate they – being the first, into what kingdom do they go straight away? Into the human kingdom?

Mme. Blavatsky:  That is what you have got to read. I have simply written and tried, without a single mistake, to give that which is in The Secret Doctrine. But when it comes to those calculations, after a time I don’t want to remember it, even.

Mr. Kingsland:  There is one point which is making a little confusion all through. The first class comes over from the lunar chain to globe A and they are followed by the second, third, fourth, and so on. Now, are all those seven classes on globe A at the same time, before the first class goes on to globe B?

Mr. B. Keightley:  What is stated here is this, in this paragraph which we are just passing. (Reads from The Secret Doctrine)

Mr. Kingsland:  Has the first class been all round the chain by this time?

Mme. Blavatsky:  No. It must be placed so that he who would like to know the time and calculate, would have to take into consideration the greater shortness of the Pralayas and of the Nirvanic state of the lunar classes. That is what you have to do.

Mr. Kingsland:  You see, from that statement, class one are leaving globe A just when class seven are coming onto it; therefore, in the meantime, two, three, four, five and six are all on globe A.

Mr. B. Keightley:  But, you see, when the Pralaya comes, as far as I can understand from this, the development of the several kingdoms is stopped short at the point they have reached for that time, and then they have to go on all round the chain.

Mr. Mead:  I want to know if it is at the moment of that Pralaya when the last monad of the first class is passed on.

Mr. B. Keightley:  That is not stated.

Mr. Kingsland:  Does that obscuration come before all the classes have passed on globe B?

Mme. Blavatsky:  No. There are those who remain, the last ones, and then they come after that, because they have only just come in, and it must be timed in such a way that the seven come into the space of the rotation or formation of the first globe, of the future humanity. Till the Fourth Round they are not really humans.

Mr. B. Keightley:  This is what seems to be implied here, that the development of the other classes, as it were, reaches a point when the obscuration sets in, in which they cannot go any further. On that globe the hour of the obscuration has struck, and they are developed on that globe and everything is stopped. Then they have to go on to globe B and repeat the process, and so on all round the chain.

Mr. Kingsland:  We ought to have a board with seven rows and seven heads, as they have in the schools.

Mme. Blavatsky:  And what good would it do to you? It would be loss of time, and nothing else.”

H. P. Blavatsky

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