stanza 6, sloka 1

Stanza VI
1. By the power of the Mother of Mercy and Knowledge – Kwan-Yin – the “triple” of Kwan-shai-Yin, residing in Kwan-yin-Tien, Fohat, the Breath of their Progeny, the Son of the Sons, having called forth, from the lower abyss, the illusive form of Sien-Tchang and the Seven Elements:

 

 

“Mr. Holt:   May we pass on to the second part of that question, and ask whether this matter in its various forms is contactable on any plane, providing we have the requisite senses? And then I may supplement the question by:  “Do we have the relative senses, even in the Nirvana?”

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Well, for the Nirvanic effect, certainly; but they call it Nirvanic. What does it mean? It means “flame blown out” – Nir-vana, no more, nothing. It is like a wind that passes and blows out everything.

 
There is an entire disappearance of everything like the matter we know of on earth, not only matter, but even of our attributes, functions, feelings, everything, nothing of the kind can go on in Nirvana. Therefore, they misunderstood the thing and they said it was annihilation, which is perfect nonsense.

 
Mr. Holt:  But there is individual consciousness still retained, is there not?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Not the individual consciousness of the present, but universal consciousness, in which the individual consciousness is a part. You see, it is quite a different thing, that. When you reach Nirvana you are the whole, the Absoluteness.

 
Mr. Gardner:  But you are differentiated, all the same.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Absolute differentiates. My goodness!

 
Mr. Holt:  Then what is Paranirvana?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Paranirvana differs from Nirvana because we are in the Absolute, which is just beyond the plane where differentiation begins. And Paranirvana is something which is beyond the Meta, of which you can know nothing.

 
You come from Nirvana back into a new Maha-Manvantara, when there is Paranirvana. Then there is the end of all; and nobody has ever calculated what shall be afterwards. That is the whole difference, philosophically.

 
Mr. Holt:  What is the Buddhist name of the state where individual consciousness first manifests itself, coming out of Nirvana, towards the plane of matter?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I don’t know what you mean?

 
Mr. Holt:  You say that individual consciousness is annihilated, except as it is preserved in the Absolute. So far as individuality is concerned, the sons of the “I am” that is apart from the Absolute, that is annihilated in Nirvana?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Certainly it is annihilated.  The “I am that I am”,  that is to say.  I am all, I am absolute. You are not then old {Holt}, but you are every blessed thing that there ever was, is, or will be;  for what is it?  You just make for yourself an idea of Absoluteness.”

 
H. P. Blavatsky

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