stanza 6, sloka 1

Stanza VI
1. By the power of the Mother of Mercy and Knowledge – Kwan-Yin – the “triple” of Kwan-shai-Yin, residing in Kwan-yin-Tien, Fohat, the Breath of their Progeny, the Son of the Sons, having called forth, from the lower abyss, the illusive form of Sien-Tchang and the Seven Elements:

 

“Mr. B. Keightley:  You see, the ordinary idea of force is that which changes or tends to change. The state of matter which moves matter, shortly.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  This is the inherent energy, the inherent motion, which tends to change, and not at all force. Force is everything, because you cannot produce the smallest little effect without the cause of it being some force used – intellectual, moral, physical, physical, any way you like it.

 
And what is force? It is the incessant action of what we call the one life, the one motion, the great motion which never ceases, which always goes on in the universe.

 
Mr. Holt:  Then you would say it was always moving in primordial matter?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Always. Even during Pralaya it is going on. There is no one to see it, or take notice of it, of how many vibrations, but still it is.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  Now, take light, for instance, and radiant heat. Is that an actual movement of particles of matter from the object which emits the light and heat to us?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I don’t know. You see, our ideas of light are quite different.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  Let us leave light out and deal with heat.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  You have your own preconceived ideas furnished you by science. You have science as the grand priest, the high priest and initiator of all your ideas. You are obliged and in honour bound to accept everything that the Royal College or Royal Fellows tell you.

 
We, on the other hand, are, so to say, the ostracized ignoramuses, the occultists; we have our own ideas, our own science; therefore I, being one of the humblest and most ignorant of those ignoramuses, cannot come and base what I tell you and give you always illustrations from science, because I don’t know anything about it.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  But I think what Kingsland is driving at is this; we have certain erroneous ideas put into our heads, and we are obliged to use the same language which is familiar to us.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  But if I don’t know it?

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  What I think he wanted to get at was, wanting you to explain as far as you could, the way in which occultism would teach about this communication of heat, for instance, from, say, a red hot lamp or anything that is hot.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Just in the same way as colour or sound is produced or any force which becomes manifested and apparent. We teach it as all coming from the Dhyan-Chohans.

 
Mr. _______:  Isn’t it molecular, though?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  It may be; everything is molecular if you call molecular that it is something. Of course I know what you mean by molecular, even in science.”

 
H. P. Blavatsky

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