stanza 5, slokas 1-5

Stanza V
1. The Primordial Seven, the First Seven Breaths of the Dragon of Wisdom, produce in their turn from their Holy Circumgyrating Breaths the Fiery Whirlwind.
2. They make of Him the Messenger of their will. The Dzyu becomes Fohat, the swift son of the Divine sons whose sons are the Lipika, runs circular errands. Fohat is the steed and the thought is the rider. He passes like lightning through the fiery clouds; takes three, and five, and seven strides through the seven regions above, and the seven below. He lifts his voice, and calls the innumerable sparks, and joins them.
3. He is their guiding spirit and leader. When he commences work, he separate the sparks of the Lower Kingdom that float and thrill with joy in their radiant dwellings, and form therewith the germs of wheels. He places them in the six directions of space, and one in the middle – the central wheel.
4. Fohat traces spiral lines to unite the sixth to the seventh – the crown; an army of the Sons of Light stands at each angle, and the Lipika in the middle wheel. They say: This is good , the first Divine world is ready, the first is now the second. Then the “Divine Arupa” reflects Itself in Chhaya Loka, the first garment of the Anupadaka.
5. Fohat takes five strides and builds a winged wheel at each corner of the square, for the four holy ones and their armies.

“Mr. A. Keightley:  Question 10.  “If Fohat is the uniting power, while at the same time differentiation is going on, what is the disintegrating force which is at work; or is Fohat bipolar, i.e., does he produce both attraction and repulsion?”

Mme. Blavatsky:  He does. I would like you to find me, as I said before, anything in this world that would not produce this bipolar action. Everything in creation is bipolar. Is there anyone very religious in the room, because I have to talk about personal God? Who of you is very religious?

Mr. _____:  I am.

Mme. Blavatsky:  You are not, I never would believe it, that is a blank denial. I want to say even your personal God is shown one moment infinite, and all kindness and mercy, the Creator and Preserver, and at another moment one of infinite anger, the destroyer and the annihilator.

All this is bipolar, all this cannot be without, and if you take the God of your conception to be such a bipolar being, then how there can be any force, or anything that is not, I don’t know.

You cannot have a force absolutely good or absolutely bad, there is no such thing in Nature, therefore they must be bipolar. You take a little speck of something you will find the two poles in it, the negative and the positive.

Mr. A. Keightley:  Then does that mean to say that the action of Fohat on any substance is alternately first one, and the the other – first constructive, and then destructive?

Mme. Blavatsky:  I told you that. Take the trinity of the Hindus. There is Brahma the Creator, Vishnu the Preserver, Shiva the Destroyer, and all the three are one; and if you can conceive of one without the two others, then there remains no God but the flapdoodle, not good for anything. That which you call destruction is simply renovation, it is simply that.

Well, I have explained it to you so many times:  there is no such thing as Death, there is transformation. Now, if you sow a seed, as St. Paul says, in order – I forget how he says it.

Mr. B. Keightley:  “In order that the seed may bear fruit it must fall into the ground and die.” (John 12:24)

Mme. Blavatsky:  Yes, that is perfectly true, that is to say, it must be transformed, it will not die, because there is no such thing as anything that is destructible, because it simply passes into something else.

This even science has discovered 20 or 30 years, it is the conservation of energy, and this is the greatest truth and the greatest thing they have discovered; really, the greatest truth that they ever will, because this is the law on which everything is based.

The whole of occultism it is that nothing is lost and everything transformed. They found it 20 or 30 years ago. I advise you to take the books which existed 4 or 500 years ago, and there the conservation of energy is positively proven, because, it is said plainly.

Or look in the Anugita, where it is said that nothing is lost, that Vishnu transforms himself and becomes [   ] in humanity, but it will become always Vishnu; that every atom becomes something else, but it is still the sole atom, it is still the same thing.

I cannot repeat it, because I have not got a good memory, but if you read the several pages, I am sure you will find that the conservation of the energy is perfectly well described there, three or four hundred years ago.

Let it be 100 years before science, I am perfectly satisfied it is proven that they knew it, and that they know it now. I don’t care whether it was many thousand years old. We speak about the manuscripts.”

H. P. Blavatsky

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