stanza 4, slokas 1-5

1. . . . Listen, ye Sons of the Earth, to your instructors—the Sons of the Fire. Learn, there is neither first nor last, for all is one : number issued from no number.
2. Learn what we who descend from the Primordial Seven, we who are born from the Primordial Flame, have learnt from our fathers. . . .
3. From the effulgency of light—the ray of the ever-darkness—sprung in space the re-awakened energies ; the one from the egg, the six, and the five. Then the three, the one, the four, the one, the five—the twice seven the sum total. And these are the essences, the flames, the elements, the builders, the numbers, the arupa, the rupa, and the force of Divine Man—the sum total. And from the Divine Man emanated the forms, the sparks, the sacred animals, and the messengers of the sacred fathers within the holy four.
4. This was the army of the voice—the divine mother of the seven. The sparks of the seven are subject to, and the servants of, the first, the second, the third, the fourth, the fifth, the sixth, and the seventh of the seven. These “sparks” are called spheres, triangles, cubes, lines, and modellers; for thus stands the Eternal Nidana—the Oeaohoo, which is:
5. “Darkness” the boundless, or the no-number, Adi-Nidana Svâbhâvat:—
I. The Adi-Sanat, the number, for he is one.
II. The voice of the Lord Svâbhâvat, the numbers, for he is one and nine.
III. The “ formless square.”And these three enclosed within the are the sacred four; and the ten are the arupa universe. Then come the “ sons,” the seven fighters, the one, the eighth left out, and his breath which is the light-maker.


“Mr. A. Keightley:  Stanza 4, Sloka 1.

Mr. B. Keightley:  (Reads the passage from The Secret Doctrine.)

Mr. A. Keightley:  Question 1.  Are the “Sons of the Fire” the subdivisions of the third Logos, or are they subdivisions of the Universal Mind? Are these two synonymous?

Mme. Blavatsky:  You mean to say that you understand that the “Sons of the Fire” are simply a hierarchy of angels, or what?

Mr. A. Keightley:  I understand that the “Sons of the Fire” are the various hierarchies comprised in the subdivision of the third Logos.

Mme. Blavatsky:  The modern “Sons of the Fire”, that is to say, those of the Fifth Race and sub-race, are called so simply because by their wisdom they belong to the hierarchies, which are nearer to it, of the “divine sons of the fire mists”, the highest planetary Chohans or angels, but the “sons of the fire mists” who are spoken of here in the Stanza as addressing the “sons of the earth”, {are} the royal king’s instructors, who incarnated on this earth to teach nascent humanity.

They belong as kings to the divine dynasties of which every ancient nation – India, Chaldea, Egypt, Homeric Greece, etc. – has preserved the tradition in some form or another.

The subdivisions of the second Logos are unknown quantities, my dear sir, and those of the first or unmanifested Logos never existed except as a unity.

Mr. A. Keightley:  My question was the third Logos.

Mme. Blavatsky:  What is you ask?

Mr. A. Keightley:  I say, are these subdivisions of the third Logos?

Mme. Blavatsky:  Certainly; they must be, because the subdivisions of the second Logos are unknown quantities. Those of the first never existed except as a unity, therefore, they must be necessarily of the third; they cannot be anything else. It is the first manifested point.

Mr. A. Keightley:  Then what relation have they to the universal mind?

Mme. Blavatsky:  What relation have they? Which ones?

Mr. A. Keightley:  These hierarchies.

Mme. Blavatsky:  They belong to the hierarchies that I have been explaining to you many, many times, beginning by the “fire Chohans”, and the “fire angels”, then the “ether angels”, the “air angels”, the “water angels”, and the “earthly angels”.

The seven lower Sephiroth are the earthly to the seven hierarchies of the seven elements, of which five you know, and two you don’t.

Mr. Kingsland:  It would appear from what you say there, they also correspond to the races?

Mme. Blavatsky:  Most assuredly, they correspond to the divine dynasties. Where would be the intellectual races with brains and thought if it were not for these hierarchies who incarnated it?”

H. P. Blavatsky

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