stanza 2, slokas 1-2

STANZA II.
1. . . . Where were the builders, the luminous sons of Manvantaric dawn? . . . In the unknown darkness in their Ah-hi Paranishpanna. The producers of form from no-form—the root of the world—the Devamatri and Svâbhâvat, rested in the bliss of non-being.
2. . . . Where was silence? Where the ears to sense it? No, there was neither silence nor sound; naught save ceaseless eternal breath, which knows itself not.

 

“Mr. Keightley:  Is this question possible to answer? Is it utterly nonsensical to say, when you speak of gas, you perceive the different elements in the gas, as distinguished from its liquid condition?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  It is in the liquid condition, and yet you can detect the gas in this liquid condition, you detect it clairvoyantly.

 
Mr. A. Keightley:  For instance, oxygen ordinarily is in a gas; by various processes it is reduced to a liquid and solidified. The question really means this:  when you find it in the gaseous condition, is it the element of air in the oxygen, the occult element of air which is perceived; and again the occult element of water which is perceived in the liquid condition, and the occult element of earth in the solid?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Most assuredly. You have first of all fire – not the fire that burns there, but the real fire that the Rosicrucians talk about, the one flame, the fire of life. On the plane of differentiation it becomes fire in whatever aspect you like; fire from friction or whatever it is, it is fire.

 
Very well, after that it produces the heat in the liquid and then you pass through the element of water and from the liquid it becomes gas. You must know better than I, speaking of the physical things.

 
Then from the gas, the two gases mix up and produce water. You take simply a drop of water and follow it. When solid it becomes ice. When ice is liquefied it becomes water, this water becomes vapor, ether, anything you like; and then it entirely disappears in the universal flame, which of course you physicists won’t speak about.

 
The universal flame – you call it inter-ether, but follow it like that and there it is. It is the element which appears to you here, and to say that this gas is not there or these two are not there I should say is a fallacy. The only thing we can say is that the gases have passed from the plane of the objective into the plane of the subjective.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  It seems to me that it is only possible with the physical senses to see one element at a time, and therefore we are quite right to say if anything is in a liquid state that we perceive is the element of water.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Perfectly. There you are perfectly right, and an occultist will answer you so. He will say as I tell you: it has disappeared from the plane of the objective and appeared on the plane of the subjective.”

 

H. P. Blavatsky

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