stanza 1, slokas 5-8

STANZA I.
5. DARKNESS ALONE FILLED THE BOUNDLESS ALL, FOR FATHER, MOTHER AND SON WERE ONCE MORE ONE, AND THE SON HAD NOT AWAKENED YET FOR THE NEW WHEEL, AND HIS PILGRIMAGE THEREON.
6. THE SEVEN SUBLIME LORDS AND THE SEVEN TRUTHS HAD CEASED TO BE, AND THE UNIVERSE, THE SON OF NECESSITY, WAS IMMERSED IN PARANISHPANNA, TO BE OUTBREATHED BY THAT WHICH IS AND YET IS NOT. NAUGHT WAS.
7. THE CAUSES OF EXISTENCE HAD BEEN DONE AWAY WITH; THE VISIBLE THAT WAS, AND THE INVISIBLE THAT IS, RESTED IN ETERNAL NON-BEING — THE ONE BEING.
8. ALONE THE ONE FORM OF EXISTENCE STRETCHED BOUNDLESS, INFINITE, CAUSELESS, IN DREAMLESS SLEEP; AND LIFE PULSATED UNCONSCIOUS IN UNIVERSAL SPACE, THROUGHOUT THAT ALL-PRESENCE WHICH IS SENSED BY THE OPENED EYE OF THE DANGMA.

 

“Mr. A. Keightley:  What is “dreamless sleep”?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  “Dreamless sleep” is a sleep without dreams, I suppose. I certainly cannot give you a better definition than that. Who can?

 
Mr. B. Keightley?  What does it mean?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  A dreamless sleep means a sleep without dreams.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  But that simply describes its state in relation to waking consciousness.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  In what particular is it? What is it about the dreamless sleep? I would like to know to what page it refers, what I have been talking about.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  It is part of that Sloka.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I remember very well. I use the expression, only I don’t see what there is. It means that there can be no presentation of the objects you can see in the universe, and therefore it is a “dreamless sleep”.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  What you say here is this (reads passage from the Secret Doctrine, 1:47).

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I think that I have explained it, and what can I explain more?

 
Mr. Kingsland:  It implies there is something very active going on in that state of dreams. I think what you want to know is, what is that which is active going on?

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  A greater degree of activity.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  What they want to get at is, what is that activity?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I surely cannot give you what is the activity of the causeless cause. I can tell you what is the activity in man. Therefore I am obliged to say I did not graduate as high as that.

 
Man is a microcosm of the macrocosm. It means all the spiritual faculties behind matter. Matter being asleep and resting, we are more active than ever, though we cannot see with our spiritual eyes. But this belongs to the question of dream, it does not belong at all to this series of questions.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  It is deeper than a state of dreams; it is further back still.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  There are no dreams on the physical plane. I said to you here that is when we do not dream about anything that we dream the most. Not only that, but we act the most, and we live on an entirely different plane from this one, and our life is a thousand times more active.

 
Our existence, rather, is a thousand times more varied; and it would be a nice thing if we could bring it back.”

 

H. P. Blavatsky

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