“Mme. Blavatsky: Now you have got to study for yourselves. The only thing I can give you is just to put the “Key” in your hands and say: “This opens this way, and this that way”, and so on. You understand that whereas one person will understand well, another will understand less.
Mrs. Gordon: Because you must have the possibility of understanding transcendental ideas.
Mme. Blavatsky: No, it is not that. You have been many years in India and yet you have never taken any pleasure in those ancient religions; others have given their practice to the study of it.
Now, if all these Orientalists were not such terrible materialists, with the knowledge they have – I speak about the Max Mullers, not the Sir Monier Williams, because he has no more spirituality in him than this chair – but about him and the others, they would understand perfectly; but they won’t, they are materialists.
Even that which they understand they would not accept; they would not permit themselves; but I don’t see what there is that you don’t understand. Mr. Kingsland, you have summarized it beautifully. What are all complaining of?
Mr. Old: That is a broad question, HPB.
Mme. Blavatsky: You will end by saying it is all flapdoodle, and that there is nothing to understand.
Mrs. Gordon: I don’t think we can expect to understand it at all.
Mme. Blavatsky: But these ladies and gentlemen who have been here Thursday after Thursday for, I suppose, a year, I don’t see that you don’t understand it. How is it possible?
Mrs. Gordon: You may accept things intellectually without saying you understand them. You may accept them as being true theories.
Mme. Blavatsky: Take it vice versa. Take it there are persons who feel it is a truth, and yet intellectually, on scientific grounds, they would not take it.
Mr. B. Keightley: Take the one point Kingsland touched on.
Mme. Blavatsky: You have to use your high faculty; intellect has nothing to do here. Materialistic science would step in.
Mrs. Gordon: It is a spiritual conception, as it were.
Mr. B. Keightley: Take that point you touched upon, Kingsland, for instance, how to conceive of the relation between these celestial hierarchies of Dhyan-Chohans and the physical forces, or what we call physical forces, if you like, with which we are ordinarily familiar.
Of course, these physical forces, according to The Secret Doctrine, are the effects produced on the plane of Maya, the plane of objectivity, proceeding through or caused by these hierarchies; but the difficulty is how to understand, how to form to one’s self a conception of what that means.
Mr. Kingsland: I confess I have not been able to form a conception. I have only got the general idea.
Mme. Blavatsky: Every hierarchy relates to some force in nature. There are seven fundamental forces in nature; there are seven hierarchies. Now, to come and say that I will undertake to explain to you every one of the seven, which may be subdivided ad infinitum, is impossible.
In the first place, if I know what it means, I am not scientific enough to come and give you the correspondences in scientific terms. I only know that not only every hierarchy and the Dhyan-Chohans, but every one of those that have been mentioned, correspond; and it may be shown how they correspond to the forces in nature. That would necessitate ten volumes, not two.”
H. P. Blavatsky