Stanza VI, Sloka 5-6
5. At the fourth, the sons are told to create their images. One third refuses – to obey.
The curse is pronounced; they will be born on the fourth suffer and cause suffering; this is the first war.
6. The older wheels rotated downwards and upwards….The mother’s spawn filled the whole. There were battles fought between the Creators and the Destroyers, and battles fought for space; the seed appearing and re-appearing continuously.
“Mr. B. Keightley: Then you go on to say this: “now light without any shadow would be absolute light”, etc. (Reads from The Secret Doctrine, {I:201} Question 10. The idea of “Fire” has usually been associated in mystic writings with Spirit rather than Matter. Can you tell us why you associate it here with the latter?
Mme. Blavatsky: Because I am not a mystic writer, and I try to make you understand things a little less misty than they are, and you instead in thanking me, criticize me.
The physical or the material and finite universe, is the shadow thrown upon the screen or illusion or Maya by eternal light, or the universal fire. It symbolizes with every nation the creative deity. Primordial matter is not our dense matter, but spirit; hence the spirit of creative fire, or heat, or cosmic desire again.
How can you dissociate fire from matter, any more than spirit from matter? Can you do it, when the latter spirit or matter is materialized spirit, and spirit is potentially matter? That is what we say in occultism.
If mystic writings held less to poetry and fantastic imagery, and a little more to plain statement of fact, they would be less misty, and those who study them more positive than they are now about the real end of things.
Fire is spirit and fire is matter, and if a particle of the London slush can be found without the two qualities, fire and spirit, then mankind had better accept at once the anthropomorphic idea of the Church Fathers, and the dead letter of the Bible, and not its philosophy.
You cannot come and say what the mystic writers could write in those days, when for every truth it was said there was immediately an inquisition, and so many cardinals to burn and roast you. Now you won’t find mystic writers; now it is time to state plain facts, because there is no one to burn them any more — except after death.”
H. P. Blavatsky