Stanza VI, Sloka 5
5. At the fourth, the sons are told to create their images. One third refuses – to obey.
The curse is pronounced; they will be born on the fourth suffer and cause suffering; this is the first war.
“Mr. _____: Is there no limit to the cycle of necessity after the egos attained the state Nirvana? Is there a possibility of having to go through succeeding rounds?
Mme. Blavatsky: The universe that they will inhabit will be immeasurably higher than the one they have inhabited, and therefore it is one more step to perfection – more and more and more.
Mr. B. Keightley: One question that suggests: When there is one more step to perfection, does it mean to carry with it the idea that as it is analogous to this universe, so, on the higher universe, there will be pleasure and pain?
Mme. Blavatsky: As the Absolute has never taken me into his confidence (For which perhaps he is to be blamed), I cannot answer such questions as that.
Mr. B. Keightley: The question is whether pleasure and pain are really limited to our plane of consciousness.
Mme. Blavatsky: I would ask you, if you please, what is pleasure and pain? Is it an eternal entity, or eternal entities?
Mr. B. Keightley: Why I put the question was this. For instance, we know there is differentiation –
Mme. Blavatsky: We know there is differentiation? We understand there is differentiation and are very proud of it, but whether there will be a differentiation of the same kind or another in other Manvantaras, this remains a secret. Even between the Absolute and the Logos.
Mr. Kingsland: Isn’t it possible that during another Manvantara everything may be arranged into nine or sixes, instead of sevens?
Mme. Blavatsky: It may be in the following Manvantara that two and two may not make four any longer, but it may make twelve. Something will happen we cannot expect.
Mr. _____: Has there ever been number one evolved?
Mme. Blavatsky: Number one would be a difficult thing. It does not yield to any combination, it is unity. We must have two, at least, and two will never make a figure. Two is a despised number. Despised by the Pythagoreans. They were two straight lines, which started from nowhere, and did not know where they went to. Two we must not take, also.
Mr. _____: Then three is the lowest number?
Mme. Blavatsky: It is the first one from which you can make anything. You cannot make of one anything, or of two. One is unity. It may be endless and infinite.
Mr. _____: That is all from the point of view of the seven?
Mr. _____: Unless it is a circle.
Mme. Blavatsky: The circle, if you please, is “the”, the root of number one, which is no number.”
H. P. Blavatsky