stanza 6, sloka 4

Stanza VI
4. He builds them in the likeness of older wheels, placing them on the Imperishable Centres.
How does Fohat build them? He collects the fiery dust. He makes balls of fire, runs through them, and round them, infusing life thereinto, then sets them into motion; some one way, some the other way. They are cold, he makes them hot. They are dry, he makes them moist. They shine, he fans and cools them. Thus acts Fohat from one twilight to the other, during Seven Eternities.”



“Mr. B. Keightley:  Question 4. “What is the relation of these four planes to the seven states of matter?”

Mme. Blavatsky:  None, except that each of the four planes has its own seven states of matter, that is all.

For instance, it seems to me that all these questions are the same, under various forms. If they are made under the impression that seven states of universal substance are identical with the planes of the globes in our chain, then I answer, it is not so.

I don’t know, you see, what your thoughts are. They are correspondential, but not consubstantial; the one belongs to a tiny solar system still denser in the degree of their materiality; the others are universal. It is our system which is still denser.

Mr. B. Keightley:  Question 5, page 172, footnote. “Can you give us any idea of the states of consciousness corresponding to the various Pralayas:  viz. between two globes, between two Rounds, and after seven Rounds?”

Mme. Blavatsky:  There I am asked to deliver the keys of esoteric philosophy in about five seconds, on two pages, and on a Thursday!

Now suppose we first studied thoroughly the nature of the Pralayas on our present plane, and within the limits of our present states of consciousness.

How can one understand anything about states of consciousness without the limits of purely physical consciousness, when even the latter in a state of most chaotic confusion as to itself and its own capacities?

Don’t you think we are often trying to mimic those frogs who wanted to become bulls, and they “busted up”? I don’t want to bust up; I know I can go and speculate upon things that are within the possibility; but how can we? Sometimes they make such questions that positively I open my mouth and say:  “Really now, what is that?”  I look at them about 4 o’clock, and I say,  “What can I answer?” So I leave them to the grace of God.

This is very flattering, you know, because it shows you think I know more than I do. I cannot speak about things which it is impossible to speculate upon.

Mr. B. Keightley:  (Reads from The Secret Doctrine).  “The Monadic host may be roughly divided into three classes”, etc. Question 6, page 174.  “Do the highest class of Monads, which attain the human stage on globe A in the First Round, appear at once in the human stage on that globe in the Second Round, or do they have to pass through any lower forms?”

Mme. Blavatsky:  I cannot answer anything more than What I said in The Secret Doctrine. Pass on to question 7. Then I have something for you.”

H. P. Blavatsky

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