stanza 6, sloka 1

Stanza VI
1. By the power of the Mother of Mercy and Knowledge – Kwan-Yin – the “triple” of Kwan-shai-Yin, residing in Kwan-yin-Tien, Fohat, the Breath of their Progeny, the Son of the Sons, having called forth, from the lower abyss, the illusive form of Sien-Tchang and the Seven Elements:


“Mr. Kingsland:  You must look upon the three higher principles as differentiations of the Absolute one, whereas beyond the Laya point you have no differentiation whatever.

Mme. Blavatsky:  That is just what it is.

Mr. B. Keightley:  But you have the seven hierarchies.

Mme. Blavatsky:  You have no seven. All is one after that.

Mr. B. Keightley:  It was seeing the phrase used – “the Seven Sons of Light”.

Mme. Blavatsky:  Never mind what we use; we have a language to say many things, and we cannot say more than what the philosophy has evoluted.

Try to understand it, if you please, that there are no differentiations, no spirit, nothing, it is the Absolute darkness for us. The highest Dhyan-Chohans could not tell you any more than could Mr. Herbert Spencer. It is a thing on which human intellect cannot speculate.

It is perfectly ridiculous and absurd for us stupid men and women to go and speculate upon such a thing as that. When I speak of stupid men and women, I include all those who possess the highest intellects in the world.

Mr. Kingsland:  At the same time, do you not speak relatively of a Laya point of matter beyond which there are {no} differentiations?

Mme. Blavatsky:  No, no.

Mr. Kingsland:  Relatively.

Mme. Blavatsky:  Look here. Try to understand me. We have seven planes of matter. On each of these planes there are seven again, and each has its Laya point.

When we are on our plane, there is a Laya point which is the seventh of our plane; but when you have gone beyond those seven planes or seven divine ideations, as they are called sometimes, then there is nothing. You cannot speculate, because there, where there is nothing to grasp at, you cannot conceive of it; it is a perfect impossibility.

Mr. Kingsland:  That is exactly what I meant, that there are certain relative Laya points.

Mme. Blavatsky:  Yes, but those that come from the first Logos are beyond any Laya point, because they do not belong yet to differentiated kosmos. They call it the septenary robe of destiny; I don’t know why it is, but it is so.

Mind you, though they are seven they are one; they are, so to say, the privations, the ideations of the seven that will be, of the second Logos – those that will be the seven from which will emanate the seven forces of nature. Please do ask me if you don’t understand something, because I want to begin very seriously all these instructions.”

H. P. Blavatsky

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