Stanza V
6. The Lipika circumscribe the triangle, the first one, the cube, the second one, and the pentacle within the egg. It is the ring called “Pass Not” for those who descend and ascend. Also for those who during the Kalpa are progressing towards the great day “Be With Us”. Thus were formed the Rupa and the Arupa: from one Light seven Lights; form each of the seven, seven times seven Lights. The wheels watch the ring….
“Mr. Kingsland: Is the state of Nirvana beyond the Laya point?
Mme. Blavatsky: Most assuredly; why, the Laya point is simply only for the planes of matter. This is the Laya point, as we call it, which goes beyond the material manifestation.
Mr. Kingsland: You would not say Devachan was beyond the Laya point?
Mme. Blavatsky: Most assuredly not. Devachan is one thing, and “the Great Day Be-With-Us” is another, for it is not simply planetary Pralaya, it is universal Pralaya.
Mr. Kingsland: We are to call that Nirvana, are we not?
Mme. Blavatsky: No, it is para Nirvana; para, which means Meta.
Mr. Kingsland: In the state of Samadhi, that is only Nirvana?
Mme. Blavatsky: It is simply Nirvana.
Mr. Kingsland: There is a certain amount of individuality attached to that.
Mme. Blavatsky: There is an individuality of spirit and soul, Atma-Buddhi.
Mr. Kingsland: You say the highest part of the Manas is assimilated with the Monad; you cannot say that of Nirvana.
Mme. Blavatsky: Most assuredly, you cannot. I explained it afterwards there, further on, because there are many places where you say things which I cannot make out. I cannot make out how you, who know all about the personal remains in Kama-loka, don’t apply the same thing when you speak of the “Great Day Be-With-Us”.
I don’t mean at all about our partial, short, little lives here. That is quite a different thing. You see, if I had some of those who put the questions to be there when I answer them, it would be a different thing.”
H. P. Blavatsky