stanza 5, slokas 1-3

Stanza V
1. The Primordial Seven, the First Seven Breaths of the Dragon of Wisdom, produce in their turn from their Holy Circumgyrating Breaths the Fiery Whirlwind.
2. They make of Him the Messenger of their will. The Dzyu becomes Fohat, the swift son of the Divine sons whose sons are the Lipika, runs circular errands. Fohat is the steed and the thought is the rider. He passes like lightning through the fiery clouds; takes three, and five, and seven strides through the seven regions above, and the seven below. He lifts his voice, and calls the innumerable sparks, and joins them.
3. He is their guiding spirit and leader. When he commences work, he separate the sparks of the Lower Kingdom that float and thrill with joy in their radiant dwellings, and form therewith the germs of wheels. He places them in the six directions of space, and one in the middle – the central wheel.

“Mr. A. Keightley:  Question 7. In Occultism, are the true atoms conceived of as “particles” or as something nearer to what we may call “Vortex-Atoms”?

Mme. Blavatsky:  I know nothing of “Vortex-Atoms”, first laughed at by science when they were talked of by [   ] {Helmholtz?}; and now, it appears, Sir W. Thomson accepts them. If you mean those of Sir William Thomson, I don’t know anything at all about them. Pass to 8.

Mr. A. Keightley:  Sloka 2. “They make of him the messenger of their will. The Dzyu becomes Fohat; the Swift Son of the Divine sons, whose sons are the Lipika, runs circular errands.”

Question 8.  Does this mean that the Lipika are the Sons of Fohat, or are they the Sons of the Primordial Seven?

Mme. Blavatsky:  This means that they are the Sons of Fohat, as a personification of Mahat, the Manasaputras or “sons of the universal intelligences”, and it means that the Lipika are the Sons of the “Primordial Seven”.

Whether the Lipikas’ marriage certificate is illegal will be next asked, I suppose. I would not wonder, because, for instance, what can I answer you to this?  They are the sons; they cannot be the Sons, it is simply an expression used.  “The Sons of Fohat” means just as the sons of Lipika, it is simply one coming down from above to below, and that is all.

Mr. A. Keightley:  Sloka 3.  “He is their guiding spirit leader. When he commences work he separates the sparks of the lower kingdom (mineral atoms) that float and thrill with joy in their radiant dwellings (gaseous clouds), and forms therewith the germs of wheels…”

Question 9.  What is meant by the “mineral atoms” spoken of here? For the stanza seems to refer to a period before even the “Wheels” were formed or placed.

Mme. Blavatsky:  It means that which is to become in this Manvantara; and the “mineral atoms”, that which was set apart for it in eternity; that is what it means and nothing else.

You see, if the writers of the stanza were not born out of time they would learn to express themselves better; but really, I think it is impossible to satisfy you and to give you all these explanations.

Now, those who wrote the stanzas wrote them just as they would write them in those times; they are perfectly philosophical, but if you come and ask every little thing, and want it to be expressed in Macaulean English (Thomas Babington Macaulay, English writer and politician, whose literary style was considered exemplary), it cannot be done.”

H. P. Blavatsky

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