stanza 1, slokas 5-8

STANZA I.
5. DARKNESS ALONE FILLED THE BOUNDLESS ALL, FOR FATHER, MOTHER AND SON WERE ONCE MORE ONE, AND THE SON HAD NOT AWAKENED YET FOR THE NEW WHEEL, AND HIS PILGRIMAGE THEREON.
6. THE SEVEN SUBLIME LORDS AND THE SEVEN TRUTHS HAD CEASED TO BE, AND THE UNIVERSE, THE SON OF NECESSITY, WAS IMMERSED IN PARANISHPANNA, TO BE OUTBREATHED BY THAT WHICH IS AND YET IS NOT. NAUGHT WAS.
7. THE CAUSES OF EXISTENCE HAD BEEN DONE AWAY WITH; THE VISIBLE THAT WAS, AND THE INVISIBLE THAT IS, RESTED IN ETERNAL NON-BEING — THE ONE BEING.
8. ALONE THE ONE FORM OF EXISTENCE STRETCHED BOUNDLESS, INFINITE, CAUSELESS, IN DREAMLESS SLEEP; AND LIFE PULSATED UNCONSCIOUS IN UNIVERSAL SPACE, THROUGHOUT THAT ALL-PRESENCE WHICH IS SENSED BY THE OPENED EYE OF THE DANGMA.

 

“Mr. Kingsland:  How do we act?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  We cannot take it, certainly, as we act on a physical plane, since that plane we are then on is Arupa, when here we are Rupa.

 
Mr. Hall:  Do we generate Karma in that condition?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  No, we do not. A man generates Karma every time he moves, with the exception {of} the activity of his highest faculties.

 
Mr. Hall:  Therefore it is the higher faculties which operate.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  And therefore you come to the dreams again. If you dream, for instance, you slew somebody, and you slew him asleep, that even affects your idea, and you dream you are killing a man.

 
Do you know, it may so happen that you will really kill a man, and the man will die, if you see it in the dream. Don’t try it, because you may do a nice little bit of black magic if it succeeded. If you had success, it might kill the man.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  Now we are speaking about dreams that come back to consciousness?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  No, you can begin in consciousness and end unconsciously. The more it goes into the regions of the spiritual, the more it will be potent, and the easier you will kill the man.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  And the less you will remember about it.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  Do you mean to say you can dream you have murdered a man, and not remember it at all, and that dream would be a potential force which might make you murder the man?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  It is your desire in the dream to hurt somebody. If you are neither an adept nor a black magician nor anything of the kind, nor a Jadoo (Hindu term for magic or wonderworking), you cannot do it while you are awake, but in the dream life you are no more impeded by the limits of matter and of your senses, and that which limits you while you are awake. Then you can produce effects just the same as a hypnotizer can kill one of his subjects. You have such a potency in you that you can kill a man at a distance, by thinking you are killing him.

 
Mr. Hall:  But he must be asleep.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Not a bit of it. You must be asleep, not he.

 
Mr. Kingsland:  Then the question is whether those actions produce Karma.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  That is what I say. On the lower plane, they will produce Karma; but if you are in your higher spiritual senses, you won’t kill a man at all. There you have not got those passions, and where you have not got them, by wanting to kill a man in the high spiritual regions you would kill yourself – because you are not separate from any man in creation, as your mind is not separate from the ALL.”

 

H. P. Blavatsky

 

 

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