stanza 1, slokas 3-4

STANZA I.
3. UNIVERSAL MIND WAS NOT, FOR THERE WERE NO AH-HI TO CONTAIN IT.
4. THE SEVEN WAYS TO BLISS WERE NOT. THE GREAT CAUSES OF MISERY WERE NOT, FOR THERE WAS NO ONE TO PRODUCE AND GET ENSNARED BY THEM.

 

“Mr. A. Keightley:  Then I put this question now, “Is the eightfold path the same as the 7 ways to bliss?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Yes.

 
Mr. A. Keightley:  “Are Nidana and Maya the (great causes of misery) aspects of the absolute?”

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Is that number 4?

 
Mr. A. Keightley:  That is number 4.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Now what can Nidana, I ask myself, and Maya have to do with each other? Nidana means the concatenation of cause and effect.

 
The twelve Nidanas are the enumeration of the chief causes which produce material for Karma to strike you very heavily. Maya is simply an illusion. Now what has Nidana to do with Maya? I cannot understand what analogy, what idea one has in common with the other.

 
If you take the universe as an illusion, a Maya, then certainly the Nidanas as being in the universe are included in the Maya, but apart from that, what has one thing to do with the other?

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  Then why do you class them together in that way?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  They are two distinct things. Maya is an illusion. You think yourself a very grand fellow, that you can go and compete with any Ah-his, and any of the { }. But you make a fool of yourself and then comes Nirvana and shows it to you.

 
It is just then, I think, that the man cannot take into his own head that he is not separate from the one and he goes and thinks himself a very great man in his own individuality, and he is nothing at all.

 
He is still one in reality. It is nothing but Maya, an illusion; but taking this Maya, it is illusion or ignorance that brings us to commit all the acts which awaken the Nidanas, which produce the first cause of Nidana; this cause having been produced, the effects follow and there is Karma.

 
Of course Nidanas and the production of bad Karma effects and Maya are at the root of every evil. If we knew what we are we would not do such things.

 
Everyone of us thinks he or she is a unit and something very grand in the eyes of all the authorities upstairs that you may think of; we are simply a drop of water in the ocean, not to be distinguished from another drop in the ocean, that is all we are.

 
This sense of separateness is at the root of all evil.

 
You know, there is no correspondence, no analogy, except the one I gave just now.

 
The President:  The only possible analogy is that they both of them are synonymous with manifestation, inasmuch as there cannot be any manifestation without the production of Nidanas on the one hand and Maya on the other.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  You think you can produce something but in reality you cannot produce anything at all.

 
The President:  The instant one single chain of a causation is started by any manifestation whatever, there is the Nidana.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Now let us say:  I have dressed myself in a red dress, I go out and because I am dressed in a red dress I have produced a cause, and a bull goes for me because I irritated his nerves; there is the Maya of the bull and there is the Nidana I have produced. So you can put two and two together.

 
It is just an illusion which makes us produce the most Nidanas.”

 

H. P. Blavatsky

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