“Mrs. Gordon: I have seen it myself, among friends of my own. They had a sixth sense, as I may say. They lived in another atmosphere altogether, you see.
Mr. Kingsland: There are a great many cases in which that is brought forward – abnormal cases, such as I have mentioned. Take the case of Josef Hofmann, the young pianist. Where does his musical knowledge come from? It is nothing but intuition. He is able to give expression to that on the physical plane through his physical body.
Mrs. Gordon: Of course the child has not learned it intellectually. He has not brain enough to do it. He has brought it with him.
Mr. Kingsland: The basis of all our actions is simply intuition.
Mme. Blavatsky: Is it your Buddhi, Old, that made you what you are?
Mr. Old: It is my Atma.
Mme. Blavatsky: You have got no Atma, distinct from others.
Mr. Old: There is the divine spark in me.
Mme. Blavatsky: It is not yours: it is common property. It is your ego, and your incarnating ego. It is that which you were in past lives that makes you what you are, a young man of 25 that has such a wonderful capacity of grasping all these things.
Mr. Old: There are certain things – as, for instance, these abstract meditations – which are not the result of experience. What experience, what self-consciousness have I when I am in Devachan? I have no relative consciousness except my own that forms the creation in my own mind.
Mr. Kingsland: And yet you believe that Devachan is the result of your experiences that you have passed through in your previous life.
Mr. Old: Certainly. But there are other abstract problems which are thinkable and cognizable by me which it is perhaps impossible to formulate, but which I can feel; and I say that these laws, this consciousness, belongs to Atma. It is related to Manas by its vehicle Buddhi, and therein this absolute consciousness is, to a certain extent, capable of being appreciated by the Manas, the monad.
Mme. Blavatsky: You are a heretic, because you speak entirely against not only the occult philosophy, but against the Vedantin philosophy.”
H. P. Blavatsky