the key to theosophy…

“Mr. B. Keightley:  Besides the Nirmanakayas, others escape. There are numerous cases of speedy reincarnation without Devachan.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  For instance, children who died before the age of reason. Immediately they are reincarnated. Persons who did not have a glimpse of spirituality in them. It is a degree of consciousness. If he is Gautama, of course he will have a kind of Devachan of his own, but there are children who have had no consciousness at all.

 
Mr. Burrows:  What form will their incarnation take?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  A child who dies is but a mistake of nature, a failure.

 
Mr. Gardner:  It is sometimes the same with parents.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I don’t think so.

 
Mrs. Besant:  Suppose you had a very noble type who had not evolved sufficiently to refuse Nirvana. Would he be obliged to reincarnate? He who had not reached quite far enough to remain?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  An adept who has not even reached and who may not reach Nirvana may remain as Nirmanakaya. He may refuse the higher state of Devachan, simply if he reached that point of consciousness in which there is no illusion possible for him – that he knows too much.

 
Mr. Old:  I thought perhaps there was a middle way.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  No sooner they are dead then there are some who step into another body where they can do good.

 
Mr. Burrows:  And the more we eliminate desire the more we escape from Devachan?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Certainly.

 
Mr. B. Keightley:  The man I was thinking of was Dramar (Louis Dramard 1848-1887, President of the Isis Lodge in Paris Of the T.S, France). I think I heard you say he would incarnate very speedily.

 
Mr. Old:  This is the last question on Devachan. Physical rest may be accomplished in the same and even less time than the period of wakeful consciousness and activity. Why then should Devachan extend to twenty or more times the short span of life?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  You had better ask Karma this question, for I cannot answer you.

 
Mr. Old:  Is not there any theory then in the Vedanta philosophy?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I teach you the occult philosophy. Really, I don’t know; it is too difficult.”

 
H. P. Blavatsky