the key to theosophy…

“Mr. Old:  The next question is:  What determines the length of the Devachanic state?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Your actions.

 
Mr. Old:  In the previous life?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  In the previous life.

 
Mr. Old:  It is not, the aggregate?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  It is not the aggregate, unless there is some surplus that has to be worked out.

 
Mr. Old:  Then you consider that at the end of Devachan, we are quits?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  We are quits with that personality of Mr. Smith and Mr. Brown, and there is the end of it.

 
Mr. Gardner:  Still, it is possible to spread it over a series of Devachans. For instance, Napoleon Bonaparte’s Devachan – that would spread over several.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Yes. I think he will have a nice Karma for the people he has killed.

 
Mr. Old:  It is such an accumulation of energy. It is quite an event to have a man like Bonaparte in the world, and in order to have reaction in the next life, it would be quite a different thing.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  I don’t suppose he has much to do in Devachan. He was the most materialistic man that ever was. He had no Devachan. If he had a Devachan after his own mind he would have all you English and try that you should have one head, and cut it off.

 
Mr. Gardner:  I suppose he was the embodiment of the nation?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  No.

 
Mr. Old:  What seems to determine the length in my mind is the activity of the nature, the rate at which the monad runs.

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  The intensity of your aspirations or desires, and the degree of your sufferings unmerited – those that you have not deserved directly, but through the Karma or the bad actions of somebody else – that is what determines it.

 
Mrs. Besant:  The more desires you have, the longer you will be there?

 
Mme. Blavatsky:  Yes. But if you have desires that were perfectly on the spiritual plane, then you are sure to be a spook.”

 
H. P. Blavatsky

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